Both headphones are fantastic. Joined Jun 13, 2020 Location Australia … Likes: Rottmannash and Daaadou. A place for discussion, news, reviews and DIY projects related to portable audio, headphones, headphone amplifiers and DACs. I have definitely seen Clear owners post about that in the past too. WTB. It is presented bea… You won’t hear much from outside and while there is a little sound leakage at high volume, they’re ultimately pretty … Desktop: PC > RME ADI-2 DAC > KH750 > KH120 or Focal Elex/Clear pro/Elegia/AKG 371/+5. I have a lot of problems with it but I know if I sell it I'll just end up with another, like I've already learned once. purr1n, Dec 20, 2017 #2. Can’t wait to read your review! Focal Elear. Close. I realize the Clear pads cost I think $150 (maybe buy used? Obviously, it shares a good deal of the technology developed for the Focal Utopia, which I reviewed in Issue 270, but its drivers are made of aluminum/magnesium rather than of the beryllium used for the Utopia. I have a pretty big head (Beyers and AKGs almost don’t fit me) and I didn’t experience any discomfort with the Elear I had for a month, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Top Reader Voted Headphones; Dynamic … Thank you for the interesting read. per audeze, a friend did warn me about the infamous weight issues for many of their models: suggested instead to try hfm…but their qc is so so. Most so called headphone experts will tell you that the Focal Clear is a step up from the Focal Elear. Focal Elear Klipsch HP-3; Frequency Response: 5 Hz-23 kHz : 5 Hz-45 kHz: Impedence: 80 ohms: 25 ohms: Type: open-back, over-ear: triple-vented, semi-open, over-ear: Sensitivity: 104 dBSPL/1mW: 98 dBSPL/1mW: Drivers: 40 mm, “m-shaped dome” free-edge, 52 mm bio-dynamic: … I own the Elex & I think it's good enough, but you may not. Coztomba. You can't go wrong with either. performance. Two cables are included, one with a 6.5mm plug and one with 4-pin XLR, allowing an easy match-up with the variety of desktop amps Massdrop and others make. purr1n Finding his inner redneck Staff … 7Hz lower low-frequency? The pads, however, make a very big difference, and some aftermarket pads, like some of the Dekoni ones, will completely re-tune Focals to the point that they don't even sound like Focals anymore. Jude's review in the Elex thread shows the frequency response between the two phones to be very, very similar. It just so happens companies have been making sucky headphones lately. ishca actually likes a headphone for once O.o. I like the Elex for music, but I can't wear it for more than an hour. I use them with an Audeze Deckard which is an excellent pairing. I am a little miffed because I don't think the Clears are twice as good as the Elex as the price reflects, but if I can get the improved driver that has a higher SPL tolerance I can't really put a price on that. Headphones - Open Back. They contribute to the overall essence of the headphones themselves. The Elex has a 2 year warranty (from Focal) in the US. Focal Elex Frequency Response (0db line = 100dbSPL) Focal Elex CSDs Focal Elex Harmonic Distortions (at FR measurement levels) Last edited: Dec 15, 2017. The Elear I have in the office I bought as a result of them being available new-but-open-box, from another vendor, for $499. Likes: Rottmannash and Daaadou. Dec 22, 2020 #378 . If true, that could increase prospective buyer's options at the very least. Focal has long been one of the biggest names in high end speakers, but its recently ventured into headphones and has been on a … The Focal Elex pads are going back on sale soon (Drop has ordered over 1000 pairs), and this time Drop promises they will be heavily QCing the pads to ensure they don't have a repeat of the nightmare they had last time (read up on it if you don't know about it and you're curious, tons of threads about it on reddit and in the Focal Elex Pads discussion tab on the product page for them). Great article by VS once again. Specifically, we get the drivers from an Elear, pads from the Clear, housing elements from both models, and cables from the Clear, all with a blacked out "stealth" theme. Head-Fier. On the other hand, the Focal are better-built headphones and feel sturdier. Desktop: PC > RME ADI-2 DAC > KH750 > KH120 or Focal Elex/Clear pro/Elegia/AKG 371/+5. Their sound quality follows more our target curve with excellent mid and treble ranges. That's 31 … As @project86 has mentioned, the Elex has borrowed "here 'n there" from the Elear and Clear. Why is Focal Elear better than Sennheiser HD 600? Elear, Elex, and Clear all use the same driver. Post #8,300 of 8,441 Coztomba Head-Fier. And yet, at least one set of … Hi again, ... Hey Reddit, I need some advice. Posted by 2 years ago. Press J to jump to the feed. The Focal Elegias isolate sound really well. On the other hand, the Focal are better-built headphones and feel sturdier. heard there is unit variation possibly so would want details about your unit and stuff like clipping and creaking/rattle. Focal Stellia: Focal Clear: Focal Stellia headphones: Focal Clear headphones: 1.2 m cable with 3.5 mm connector: 1.2 m cable with 3.5 mm connector : 3 m balanced cable with 4-pin XLR connector: 3 m cable with 6.35 mm connector: 3.5 mm to 6.35 mm adapter: 3 m balanced cable with 4-pin XLR connector: zipping rigid travel carrying … The result is a headphone which, for my tastes, transcends the performance of both "donor" models. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. I can't really say specific differences as I haven't done a side-by-side yet. While the Utopia is definitely the more capable technical performer, many of the people I know prefer the Clear’s signature. Moving the bar up a tiny bit, I would clearly vote for the Focal Clears. This has the effect of making the mids more even. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. If it in fact works, an Elear/Clear pad combo could be considered a viable option by some people, even if it just gets you say halfway there sonically. It seems like people have had the same "driver crackle" issues with all the Focals. I don’t want to pay more than $700 for headphones and I feel comfortable having these as my endgame. I own the Elex and I think they are a very worthy upgrade from the HD600 and after listening and owning to several sub $1k headphones, the Elex have my favorite overall sound. Joined Mar 9, 2016 Messages 10,735 Likes 10,049 Location Riverview FL. Forum Donor. There’s no active noise-cancelling here, but thanks to the closed-back design and comfortable fit of the cups, it almost feels like there is. I think the Elex is pretty balanced sounding and has good bass extension. Yeah, HD800 will always be up there for me. It does two things better than the Clear: I'm saving up for a pair of Clears right now because having gone through 2 pairs of Elexs that crackled I don't want to do the same song and dance a third time. Last year, Massdrop announced a collaboration with Focal and started collecting funds for the Focal Elex. So, I received a Focal Clear that I got and I love. Cookies help us deliver our Services. Looks a lot more even throughout the mids. Focal's Elear sits behind the new Clear and the Utopia but remains one of the meatiest sounding headphones in the $1000 range. Review. I've seen the SBAF crowd refer to it as an 'Eclair' :). If the purported effects of the pad swap could be replicated in REVERSE, than that could go a long way in furthering the hypothesis that the Elex is really just an Elear with Clear pads--and help us poor schlubs who want to pay as little as possible for the highest possible return in sonic value :P Thx in advance! Vorlon, ultrabike and Clemmaster like this. Just as a side note, why not pad swap the ELEAR pads onto the Elex and "A-B-C" test them? Generally this headphone doesn’t need a dedicated headphone amp to go loud enough, most interfaces will drive it with ease. After that, it’s a bit tougher. I am trying to save my wallet, but it might be a losing battle. On the other hand, the Klipsch HP-3 comes in a box made of wood. A lot of MD editions do that tho, what is Senn trying to sell HD660S and even the HD650 for? I routinely use it as a "control" in my testing. Dec 22, 2020 #378. Dec 22, 2020 #383. ... help Reddit App Reddit coins Reddit premium Reddit gifts. That said, having heard both: if I didn't have problems with my Elex I'd still own it. I got to spend a number of days with the Utopia enough to know I love it. Their sound quality follows more our target curve with excellent mid and treble ranges. Joined Mar 9, 2016 Messages 10,735 Likes 10,049 Location Riverview FL. Archived. Maybe someone even already HAS the Elear, and doesn't realize you can "turn it into" an Elex just by buying the pads. They have a nice grill on the cups and a well-padded headband. I can't say I have really noticed it in normal listening though. This means that from the same source set at the same volume Clear will go louder. The Focal Elear are great looking headphones that have a high-end and premium feel. 39. Also, where I think people see this as an upgrade from the HD6XX, it is similar in quality, but just better, more resolving and present. Innerfidelity is a much more credible tester than any other on the web, and his plots show an incredibly precise driver match. Home; Gear Guide. The advantages of AKG K702 over Elex are: 1) better, wider and more accurate sound stage, 2) reverse U shaped sound signature, 3) lighter weight, 4) less clamping force, and most importantly 5) more comfortable for long gaming sessions. Not a problem on the Elex. Anyways... Have you tried pad swapping the Elex pads onto the Elear yet? I think the main reason it hasn’t been reviewed much is because they’re just not in the hands of many reviewers. Any time I see you've commented on something, I instantly take note. Honestly you'd have to hear both to decide which you like more. 104dB/mW vs 97dB/mW; 220 Ohms … SONY OLED A8H 4K SMART TV - AN IN DEPTH REVIEW - Duration: 22:19. Are they the same as with the Clear pads? Dec 22, 2020 at 2:01 AM. Priced at $1499, the Clear is intended to be the best option Focal offers for under $1500. The Elex starts with the Focal Elear and sprinkles in certain aspects from their new Clear design. Most of the build is metal, and the cups are large and well-made. They are practically all-black, expect for the metallic silver finish on the cup hinges and logo. As you said the graph showing the Clear having more bass doesn't seem to align with subjective impressions :), Still, thank you for this effort and for confirming that the Elex is basically the Elear with Clear pads (now I just need to find a way to buy these damn pads). Subjectively. I think the elex is considered to be 90-95% of the clears and the elear is the odd triplet. Ears validate the measurements, not the other way. Yeah, unfortunately that's not how pricing works in audio. Some have said you can hardly tell the difference between the two when you do that. Central Scrutinizer. First of all, I hope this doesn't sound overly syrupy and "fanboyish", but--you remind me a lot of Tyll. per audeze, a friend did warn me about the infamous weight issues for many of their models: suggested instead to try hfm…but their qc is so so. As someone mentioned, given that most people I knpw take as close to perfect their equipment. Focal Elear. Do all of these models have the same clamp strength? Well, sometimes the measurements keep us honest. Elex is solid, I own it and Elear. 5Hz vs 12Hz; 7dB/mW higher sound pressure level? AFAIK the Elex is an Elear with a different paint scheme and pads. The Elear is my favourite-looking headphone, and then Massdrop went ahead and blacked out all that detail :(. Priced at $1499, the Clear is intended to be the best option Focal offers for under $1500. The HiFiMan Ananda are better critical listening headphones than the Focal Elear. Review. Focal Clear has the same high sensitivity as Elear, yet the voice-coil has been changed from 80 to 55 Ohms. The advantages of AKG K702 over Elex are: 1) better, wider and more accurate sound stage, 2) reverse U shaped sound signature, 3) lighter weight, 4) less clamping force, and most importantly 5) more comfortable for long gaming sessions. R. rcstevensonaz Member. Central Scrutinizer. 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This is a brighter than neutral headphone, and if you throw really bright tracks at it, it’s going to be harsh. RayDunzl Major Contributor. Close. 1 comment. Headphones: Focal Utopia, Hifiman HE6, Hifiman HE1000 V1, ZMF Atticus, Sennheiser HD580, Sennheiser PC37x, Sony MDR-1000x, Koss KSC75 solderdude Major Contributor. Posted by. I'm worried he hit his head on the way into the store, I admit I find your measurements strange, when I auditioned both the Elear and the Clear side by side the Elear was clearly the one with the most bass (or rather mid-bass, it felt really boomy compared to the other). ARE OLED TVS STILL THE BEST IN 2020? 37 points. I only demo’d the Clear once a few months ago for a bit, but I believe it is more detailed and “clear” since it is brighter than the Elex. Andrew Robinson 94,896 views Owned the Elex, best headphone under $1000 that I've heard, easily. (Auteur,Atticus,Eikon,6XX, ADI-2 Pendant ETC... | Arya | LCD-i4 | Ether C Flow 1.1 | -> CMA400i. The difference between the Clear and Utopia is, in my opinion, almost as much preference driven as it is performance. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, RME/887/ZDT Jr>Auteur/Atticus/HD800(SDR)/Elex/LCD2C/Verum1/HD6XX. I have the Focal Clear and I've heard other Focal headphones at various stores and shows. For EDM, these can be awesome, or they can suck a lot. How does soundstage of the Focal Clear compare to that of the Elex? Focal Elex vs Hifiman Ananda. Always had a suspicion that the Elex was going to make the Focal product portfolio kind of awkward. Focal Elex vs Hifiman Ananda. Any info or opinions are welcome. The upper mids are filled in, but not overly emphasized. Also, apparently the Elex on Massdrop has a better frequency response than the Clear and sounds better for cheaper, but I haven't heard it yet. Edit if you're located in an area that massdrop will ship the elex to then I think that's the easy choice once factoring in price. Focal Elear vs Sennheiser HD 600. For the Elex, Massdrop have done something similar to my thinking, and made the whole headphone a Sony-esque matte black, including using a darker version of the cable from the Clear. Clear has a different voice coil, but different doesn't objectively mean better. share. We tried swapping pads and listened, but we tried it in a stupid way: one side had Elear pads and the other had the Elex pads. The Sennies seem slow in comparison but make up for it with better overall tonality imo. (This confirms it?) $1000+ $501-1000; $401-500; $301-400; $201-300; $101-200; Up To $100; First Contact; Features; CanJam Reports; News Releases; Headphones . It is definitely needed as a reference for future measurements from me. Today, Massdrop is announcing their latest major headphone collaboration, the Massdrop x Focal Elex, a new sibling to Focal's flagship family of headphones (the Elear, Clear, and Utopia).We review and discuss the new Massdrop x Focal Elex, comparing it not just to Focal's other flagship models, but also to the Sennheiser HD650 (HD6XX), including frequency response and THD measurements. I don’t totally hear that much of a resemblance to the HD600 other than some shout, but I can see someone who likes the HD600 gravitate towards this. I could wear the K702 for hours with no issues. I have noticed that comparisons tend to say the Elear is a warmer sounding headphone (it has more pronounced bass). The … I can get the Focal Clear for 750€ and wonder if I should pull the trigger. On the head, they are as comfortable as any of the aforementioned Focal headphones. I don't know much because I haven't heard them both but whilst the elex has a similar fr to the clear the technicalities of the clear are better due to the improved driver. purr1n Finding his inner redneck Staff Member Friend BWC. How We Score; Annual Awards; Search By Price. It's really not that uncommon; I like lots of things. I always wondered if the Elex was a Frankenstein baby of the Elear and Clear. Press J to jump to the feed. Focal Stellia vs Focal Clear Headphones In the Box. Clear, absolutely. Desktop: PC > RME ADI-2 DAC > KH750 > KH120 or Focal Elex/Clear pro/Elegia/AKG 371/+5. Home > Headphones comparison > Focal Elear vs Sennheiser HD 600. Always had a suspicion that the Elex was going to make the Focal product portfolio kind of awkward. Massdrop Focal Elex Review Hello all!. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, Atoll HD100 | Dragonfly Red > LCD2C | HD600 | Andromeda | P1, D90 -> THX887 -> Clear, Elex, Andromeda, 6XX, ADI2+MogwaiSE>Susvara/Auteur/Eikon/Aeolus/HE500/Teak/650/600/580, Soekris 1541 - ECP T3 - Aeolus | HD 6XX | PM-3 | ES100 - MD Plus, Utopia / XBA-Z5 / AH-D600 / ER4SR / HD540. Desktop: PC > RME ADI-2 DAC > KH750 > KH120 or Focal Elex/Clear pro/Elegia/AKG 371/+5. I bought a new pair for $1099 delivered. Dec 22, 2020 ... Share: Facebook Google+ Reddit Pinterest Tumblr WhatsApp Email Link. My Clear looks very similar to the one measured here on my EARS (though raw and not DF compensated). I am really surprised they haven’t been reviewed more and as of right now, I think they’re underrated. Too often high-end products neglect appearances; if you’re spending this sort of money, we think you should get a product th… Have you tried swapping the Elex and Elear pads? The Elex has a 2 year warranty (from Focal) in the US. And DO NOT believe the dogma on the unfairly reviled HD700. Joined Nov 27, 2020 Messages 24 Likes 9. R. rcstevensonaz Member. Dec 22, 2020 #383. Thread starter Similar threads Forum Replies Date; N: WTB. Focal Clear has the same high sensitivity as Elear, yet the voice-coil has been changed from 80 to 55 Ohms.This means that from the same source set at the same volume Clear will go louder. Joined Jun 13, 2020 Messages 96 Reaction score 119 Location Australia. After that, it’s a bit tougher. That said I am really drawn to Clear as it still has that Focal house sound of being incredibly dynamic, punchy, and visceral. Likes: Jimbob54 and thewas. The %s aren't too dissimilar. Pretty sweet deal, if you ask me. They did feel the same as the Clear pads though. Inspired by Modernity vs Antiquity – Focal Elear vs Klipsch HP-3 Comparison Review Specifications. Also what does a Elear with Clear pads sound like? RayDunzl Major Contributor. Yeah the elex is pretty close to the clear, the elear has like audeze tuning with the recessed treble. They are practically all-black, expect for the metallic silver finish on the cup hinges and logo. I'm very glad that the Elex has adopted the Clear-style of cables despite the headphone originating from a Elear base. Thanks to everyone who took the time to respond, and here's enjoying a 'TOTL' headphone. I should be getting a Clear and Utopia loaner soon and I'll eventually be doing a 4 way shootout comparison of Elear, Elex, Clear, and Utopia. The Elex side sounded more forward and impactful, but in retrospect that's a really dumb way of testing. There’s been a few comparison reviews from others between all the Focal headphones. ... Bass the Ananda is the clear winner here, it has bigger bass image and doesn't clip on loud heavy bass tracks like some Hans Zimmer soundtracks. https://www.verumsonus.com/focal-clear-vs-focal-elear-vs-focal-elex-comparison-review/. I've been going back and forth but it's hard to tell a lot of difference in the sound. This may sound redundant but what does a Elear with Elex pads sound like? The Focal Clear feature an M-shaped, inverted-dome, full-range driver measuring 40mm. Where they're different is that the Elex has more air in the treble & a wider sound stage; the Clear has more bass both mid & sub in addition to brighter highs. Did you notice the crackle on normal listening or only specifically testing for it on high volumes? I think people typically choose the Elex and Clear over the Elear. May 6, 2020 #2. It fastens closed via magnets on the opening flap. … I disagree on all 3 fronts. Joined Sep 7, 2018 Messages 470 Likes 308. The Focals have always confused me; my results actually aren’t that different from Tyll’s either in that the Clear extends very slightly better and measures with more bass in general when the shout is taken into account. They have the same reference sound and warmth as the HD600 with a more refined and clear presentation. May 6, 2020 #2. Dec 22, 2020 #378. The retail price for the Clear is 500.00 more than the Elear. ), but that's a far cry from $700 to $1500! I auditioned the Clears already, and loved them, but Im not sure how they compare to the cheaper Elex. Focal Elex: Basically Elex just fixes all my complaints with Elear. ARE OLED TVS STILL THE BEST IN 2020? I auditioned the Clears already, and loved them, but Im not sure how they compare to the cheaper Elex. Would you say the Clear is worth the premium over the Elex? Any info or opinions are welcome. The Focal Elear comes in an all black leather coated case. This new model to this lineup essentially takes the Elear, removes it’s pads and puts the Clear pads on them, along with a fresh paint job, improved cables from the Clear, and reduces the price tag by a couple hundred dollars to the selling price of $699. 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